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and israel has shown remarkable restraint but now what israel has done is to capitated the military command of hamas and attacked the missile storage spots and that's what they've done so far the next step is up to hamas unfortunately i'm told by the i.d.f. in the last twenty four hours two hundred forty five missiles have been launched that israel so if they continue to do that i'm sure there will be additional attacks up to and including a ground assault if that's the only way for israel to defend itself ok norman where do you came in on this i mean another ground assault you've written a book about the last one. i don't think there will be a ground assault with i do think it's true that it's pretty similar in the build up to what happened in two thousand and eight two thousand and nine back then israel was worried about what it called the parents capacity means its ability to terrorize people in the region after the defeat it suffered in two thousand and six by the party of god that has been and now israel has been suffering one foreign relations debacle after another first there
and israel has shown remarkable restraint but now what israel has done is to capitated the military command of hamas and attacked the missile storage spots and that's what they've done so far the next step is up to hamas unfortunately i'm told by the i.d.f. in the last twenty four hours two hundred forty five missiles have been launched that israel so if they continue to do that i'm sure there will be additional attacks up to and including a ground assault if that's the only way for israel to...
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in southern israel. by missiles that were launched on purpose at civilians all the israeli attacks on us military targets i mean honestly i don't know what it is i think has what israel woman has being killed dozens of children have injured and then you know as i started more of this is what happens ok you know i mean i jump in go ahead. you know but i would like to. then talks about using human shields and targeting civilians so how the current round begin there was a lull until november eighth november eighth israel with its height precision technology israel killed a palestinian child then there was retaliatory by the palestinian this is this is as usual are going to not already there wasn't all a fire down there were hundreds and hundreds of this was on fire and on fire and they're going to have to let me talk to you then you're going to have to behave let me talk you get your time when you're always going to retaliate by firing them. by firing on israeli soldiers so how israel retaliate israel where
in southern israel. by missiles that were launched on purpose at civilians all the israeli attacks on us military targets i mean honestly i don't know what it is i think has what israel woman has being killed dozens of children have injured and then you know as i started more of this is what happens ok you know i mean i jump in go ahead. you know but i would like to. then talks about using human shields and targeting civilians so how the current round begin there was a lull until november...
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israel is not winding down its assault on gaza. travels across the middle east and africa to mediate a cease fire the u.s. secretary of state has made it clear that israel has america's backing clinton rated her country's unwavering support for television but also called for a deescalation of the conflict in order to protect civilians but as all she's going to can report now it's not always. the crisis in the middle east probably like no other crisis reveals the double speak of u.s. foreign policy the u.s. basically gave a green light to any of their actions with regards to palestinians and israel has been taking advantage of that quite extensively because as president obama explained there is no country on earth would tolerate missiles raining down on its citizens from outside its borders makes complete sense nobody should but one may ask what about all those countries that the us has bombed iraq afghanistan pakistan yemen and others or is it that when you refer to civilian deaths as collateral damage somehow killing civilians sou
israel is not winding down its assault on gaza. travels across the middle east and africa to mediate a cease fire the u.s. secretary of state has made it clear that israel has america's backing clinton rated her country's unwavering support for television but also called for a deescalation of the conflict in order to protect civilians but as all she's going to can report now it's not always. the crisis in the middle east probably like no other crisis reveals the double speak of u.s. foreign...
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is that regardless of how israel may see i think at the end of the day israel's decision makers for a west bank palestinian authority controlled by and a gaza palestinian authority controlled by hamas rather than a unified palestinian palestinian political system i would certainly agree with that now in terms of i would just like to make two observations to what you were said earlier first of all in terms of recognition of hamas and so on while he's. entirely correct to say that that recognition does not yet exist there are in fact and we've just seen it in the past few days now. and there have been for a while primarily through through the egyptians negotiations between israel and hamas and direct negotiations to be sure but negotiations going on for quite some time and that appear much more serious than any talks that have taken place between between israel and the palestinian leadership. and secondly regarding how mouse's position on a two state settlement has in fact frequently. more or less explicitly stated that it would accept a palestinian state on the nine hundred sixty seven
is that regardless of how israel may see i think at the end of the day israel's decision makers for a west bank palestinian authority controlled by and a gaza palestinian authority controlled by hamas rather than a unified palestinian palestinian political system i would certainly agree with that now in terms of i would just like to make two observations to what you were said earlier first of all in terms of recognition of hamas and so on while he's. entirely correct to say that that...
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israel does not recognize hamas, hamas does not recognize israel's right to exist. can you see a day where that changes that israel sits down with hamas or even recognizes hamas? >> well, this is really a political echelon, but i don't see the near time, a day that there will be in the near future for this type of reconciling. >> prime minister netanyahu spoke about that. what would a ground operation have looked like from that perspective? >> a lot of forces, maybe tens of thousands, going deeply into the rocket areas, where the storages are, looking for the tunnels, we have bombed something like that 140 tunnels in this current operation out of 400. so going deeply into those places, in the civilian areas, where the weaponry and the ammunition is really hidden there, this is something you can only do on ground operation ope >> do you have any type of rockets, how many they still have left? >> a small number to our estimation. >> dozens? >> yeah, even less than dozens, but keep in mind that iran will try to smuggle more rockets of this kind, since they damaged this
israel does not recognize hamas, hamas does not recognize israel's right to exist. can you see a day where that changes that israel sits down with hamas or even recognizes hamas? >> well, this is really a political echelon, but i don't see the near time, a day that there will be in the near future for this type of reconciling. >> prime minister netanyahu spoke about that. what would a ground operation have looked like from that perspective? >> a lot of forces, maybe tens of...
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and the land of israel. [applause] mr. president, the people of israel wait for a palestinian leader in that that is willing to follow in the path -- the world waits for president abbas to speak the truth of peace that can only be achieved through negotiation by recognizing israel as a jewish state. it waits for him to tell him that he will address israel's security needs and end the conflict once and for all. he prefers symbolism over reality, as long as he refers to travel to new york for you and resolutions rather than travel to jerusalem for hope and dialogue, any hope of peace would be out of reach. israel has always extended its hand in peace and will always extend its hand for peace. when we faced an arab leader who wanted peace, we made peace. time and again, we have been met with rejection for our offers and denial of our rights and terrorism. the only thing his story about this speech how much he has ignored history. the truth is that 65 years ago today, the united nations voted to petition the bri
and the land of israel. [applause] mr. president, the people of israel wait for a palestinian leader in that that is willing to follow in the path -- the world waits for president abbas to speak the truth of peace that can only be achieved through negotiation by recognizing israel as a jewish state. it waits for him to tell him that he will address israel's security needs and end the conflict once and for all. he prefers symbolism over reality, as long as he refers to travel to new york for you...
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in israel under a rocket fire. i mean, you have to really to cover it properly you have to sort of see the humanity in both sides. >> and it really is a very human story on both sides of the border and regular life on both sides of the border ground to a halt. israel they have air raid warning signs and get cover. you don't see people on the streets. most people are indoors. >> here it's much more difficult. gaza is much poorer. even in the best of times life is much more difficult here than it is in israel. israel is in a sense a first world country in terms of living standards. here in gaza, about 75% to 80% of the population are refugees and they have moved out many of them have moved out of the refugee camps but you still have this situation where they look over the border and they remember the homes they lost and that might explain why there's so much passion here about this conflict. >> it's also such a densely populated area and the gaza city densely pop latted and rockets fired sometimes from residential ar
in israel under a rocket fire. i mean, you have to really to cover it properly you have to sort of see the humanity in both sides. >> and it really is a very human story on both sides of the border and regular life on both sides of the border ground to a halt. israel they have air raid warning signs and get cover. you don't see people on the streets. most people are indoors. >> here it's much more difficult. gaza is much poorer. even in the best of times life is much more difficult...
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statement on balanced against israel just as the u.s. has blocked all other palestinian related un resolutions in the past whether it was on israel continuing to build settlements on occupied territories or other initiatives put forward to ease the years long suppression of the people there by blocking all efforts of the international community to mediate a solution washington contributes to the status quo and the status quo here is that the root causes of the crisis have not been addressed and is the root causes remain any ceasefire looks temporary there was a major israeli assault on gaza four years ago to more than a thousand people did not solve the problem so one may argue the status quo almost guarantees that the cycle of violence will continue. to will continue our coverage of the blood between israel and hamas after a break. on the march under god these men and women are walking one of the longest and probably the loneliest road in the world they reenacting march into exile made by thousands of czarist russia. if i was here three
statement on balanced against israel just as the u.s. has blocked all other palestinian related un resolutions in the past whether it was on israel continuing to build settlements on occupied territories or other initiatives put forward to ease the years long suppression of the people there by blocking all efforts of the international community to mediate a solution washington contributes to the status quo and the status quo here is that the root causes of the crisis have not been addressed and...
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is occupying somebody else's country israel is bombing somebody else's country and israel won't concede land that it's trying to colonize in somebody else's country as a condition of peace talks israel is eating up other people's our economy and of running out of time but it's a very much fascinating discussion many thanks today to my guests are you guys are among an impish grin thanks to our viewers for watching us to see you next time remember across tough rules. and. she didn't sorrow. for escape. barely surviving longing for a godsend. they live in a search for gold. why doesn't it bring them wealth. please please please please. please. please. let mission and free accreditation free in-store charge is free to make amends free. three stooges free. download free blogs just plug in video for your media projects free medio dot r.t. dot com.
is occupying somebody else's country israel is bombing somebody else's country and israel won't concede land that it's trying to colonize in somebody else's country as a condition of peace talks israel is eating up other people's our economy and of running out of time but it's a very much fascinating discussion many thanks today to my guests are you guys are among an impish grin thanks to our viewers for watching us to see you next time remember across tough rules. and. she didn't sorrow. for...
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and israel. and then, she will then go to egypt and talk with egypt's president mohamed mursi and egypt is taking the lead in this negotiation with hamas. so u.s. believes that egypt is playing a very concrete and positive role, and so it looks like all sides are prepared to give some more time for diplomacy to be worked out. >> christiane, what's your sense of the american role in this decision to halt the ground invasion? obviously, like you said, it would have been very unseemly had it been done while hillary clinton was on the ground there. but is she going because there has been progress? or is she going because she needs to break some sort of stalema stalemate? >> well, probably to lend support, and to, you know, put the u.s. point of view, and to, as they say, look face-to-face at the counterparts and be there in the room with them. this is a very critical time. everybody in this region knows it. of course, everybody in the u.s. knows, too, that the last thing you want is to see a massive
and israel. and then, she will then go to egypt and talk with egypt's president mohamed mursi and egypt is taking the lead in this negotiation with hamas. so u.s. believes that egypt is playing a very concrete and positive role, and so it looks like all sides are prepared to give some more time for diplomacy to be worked out. >> christiane, what's your sense of the american role in this decision to halt the ground invasion? obviously, like you said, it would have been very unseemly had it...
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the sweetener was support for israel. support for israel diplomatmatically. standing beside us. upholding our right to defend ourselves in the face of hamas terror. that was very important for us. also it's important for that iron dome missile system which you saw working, anderson, and working so outstandingly, taking down about 85% to 90% of all the incoming rockets and denying hamas the opportunity to -- or the ability to strike at our 5.5 million israelis who were under rocket fire. >> we talked about this, ambassador, a few hours ago. there have now been apparently five rockets launched. a number of them intercepted. but three of them landed in southern israel. how do you see that? how seriously do you take that in terms of a violation of the cease-fire thus far? >> we assumed it would take a while for the cease-fire to take hold. i understand now it has taken hold. there hasn't been fire for a while. of course, we are not firing. there is a cease-fire, anderson. >> all right. ambassador oren, i appreciate your time tonight. thank you very much. >> thank you, anderson. >>>
the sweetener was support for israel. support for israel diplomatmatically. standing beside us. upholding our right to defend ourselves in the face of hamas terror. that was very important for us. also it's important for that iron dome missile system which you saw working, anderson, and working so outstandingly, taking down about 85% to 90% of all the incoming rockets and denying hamas the opportunity to -- or the ability to strike at our 5.5 million israelis who were under rocket fire....
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our solidarity has to be with israel. this is a point where israel has been under attack for a long period of time and nothing has solved it. also, during this period of time, i think the importance of achieving a two-state solution really cannot be underestimated. there's going to be no more better partner than mahmoud abbas and i think to a great extent, the inability to enable israel and the palestinians to come together, perhaps this will provide that opportunity. perhaps the secretary of state will play a very dominant role. after all, her husband came the closest of anybody to establishing a two-state solution. so she knows exactly where all of this stands and what might be able to solve what has been an historic and very difficult situation. >> part of the problem for mahmoud abbas is that he's being increasingly seen to be marginalized. hamas seem to be the emerging power there with more control perhaps over the body of palestinians, and he is seen as somebody slightly out of touch from where the real action is. n
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in why israel cares about civilians. still i mean i mentioned here gentlemen gentlemen nothing's been mentioned here they did the gaza strip is under siege go ahead i would still like to know which arabic newspaper reflects this absolutely ridiculous distorted version of recent history we are now being served up. secondly. is is are the claims that greg norman is making about how mass somehow a justification for mass murder by israel in the gaza strip whether in two thousand and eight two thousand and nine or today or in the next round now peter you mentioned the seeds i mean there are underlying factors here there is the occupation there is that continuously deprived right of self-determination of the palestinian people and of course in more recent years there is a siege and blockade of the gaza strip that's the context what we're seeing now is a symptom of the cause rather than the cause itself. which i can reply that greg. sure the first of all the newspaper was. second of all accusations of mass murder. you know nece
in why israel cares about civilians. still i mean i mentioned here gentlemen gentlemen nothing's been mentioned here they did the gaza strip is under siege go ahead i would still like to know which arabic newspaper reflects this absolutely ridiculous distorted version of recent history we are now being served up. secondly. is is are the claims that greg norman is making about how mass somehow a justification for mass murder by israel in the gaza strip whether in two thousand and eight two...
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what does israel want? israel wants hamas to stop firing rockets, especially the long-range rockets, at their populations. certainly there's a good exchange there. but what it's going to take is egyptians or somebody, egyptians are going to be it, providing the security and the guarantees on such an agreement. that's very hard for the egyptians to do. they don't want to be responsible for gaza. so we're going to have to provide -- somebody is going to have to provide inducement for them to do so. i think that's the broad outlines of a cease-fire. a long-term cease-fire. i think it's very doable. >> think about the implications of that. it means the good exchange he talks about is israel stops doing what's legal and that is a blockade and killing terrorists, in exchange for hamas stop doing a double war crime. that's not the way the world should operate. >> let's talk about what is in israel's benefit. what is in israel's benefit and what is the alternative shimon peres was asking about was recognizing they
what does israel want? israel wants hamas to stop firing rockets, especially the long-range rockets, at their populations. certainly there's a good exchange there. but what it's going to take is egyptians or somebody, egyptians are going to be it, providing the security and the guarantees on such an agreement. that's very hard for the egyptians to do. they don't want to be responsible for gaza. so we're going to have to provide -- somebody is going to have to provide inducement for them to do...
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where israel sits down with hamas? >> this is really political etch loan, but i don't see a near time of -- you know, a day that will be in the near future for this kind of reconciliation. >> there are clearly a number of israelis who wanted more of an operation. prime minister netanyahu spoke about that. what would a ground operation have looked like from the idf perspective? >> a lot of forces, maybe even tens of thousands. going deeply into the rockets area where the storage is. looking for those tunnels exactly, because we have bombed something like 140 tunnels in the current operation, out of 400. so going deeply into those places and those civilian areas, where the -- the weaponry and the ammunition is wrareally hid there. this is something you can do only with ground forces. >> do you have any idea that hamas, how many they still have left? >> a small number to our estimation. however -- >> like dozens or -- >> yeah, even less than dozens, keep in mind that iran will try to smuggle in more rockets of this kind s
where israel sits down with hamas? >> this is really political etch loan, but i don't see a near time of -- you know, a day that will be in the near future for this kind of reconciliation. >> there are clearly a number of israelis who wanted more of an operation. prime minister netanyahu spoke about that. what would a ground operation have looked like from the idf perspective? >> a lot of forces, maybe even tens of thousands. going deeply into the rockets area where the...
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anti-israel. he calls israel terrorist day today. egypt is run by the brotherhood, as you know is the mother organization of hamas. which is simply palestinian wing of the egyptian muslim brotherhood. lastly, they dropped in a month ago and left behind half a million dollars. there are an array of countries. what is hamas trying to do? translate the increase in strength to new agreements. the demands are for the cease-fire that israel agrees not to attack again. to allow hamas to build up its weaponry. and pledge not to hit any hamas leaders, and not to hit in the future any hamas weapons or missiles. which means it would have a truce, it will never have a peace. but have a truce. hoodna. during which they will become extremely strong, develop hundreds of thousands of rockets that can hit israel. can hit tell avive and jerusalem. and -- tel aviv and jerusalem and put 80% of israel under the rocket. israel will never agree to that. that is slow suicide. so, as long as hamas is demanding that. offen
anti-israel. he calls israel terrorist day today. egypt is run by the brotherhood, as you know is the mother organization of hamas. which is simply palestinian wing of the egyptian muslim brotherhood. lastly, they dropped in a month ago and left behind half a million dollars. there are an array of countries. what is hamas trying to do? translate the increase in strength to new agreements. the demands are for the cease-fire that israel agrees not to attack again. to allow hamas to build up its...
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into israel. that was something they really wanted. and of course israel does not want to see hamas resupplied through the tunnel network. that is still to be worked out. i asked him whether or not he got weapons and whether hamas was getting weapons from iran, and he gave me a non-confirmation confirmation. it's an open secret that they come through those tunnels. so that has to be taken in hand. we're not sure how that's going to happen, but obviously there is some egyptian role in that as well. but, yes, egypt is the guarantor of this cease-fire. neither side trusts each other. and both sides are going to be able to appeal to the guarantor, egypt, the united states and other regional powers who've been helping, but the lead is egypt. and interestingly, you know, wolf, this is the first time israel's gone into an agreement with an islamist government, that is the new government of egypt. >> christiane amanpour reporting for us from cairo. thank you, christiane. we have reaction to the new cease-
into israel. that was something they really wanted. and of course israel does not want to see hamas resupplied through the tunnel network. that is still to be worked out. i asked him whether or not he got weapons and whether hamas was getting weapons from iran, and he gave me a non-confirmation confirmation. it's an open secret that they come through those tunnels. so that has to be taken in hand. we're not sure how that's going to happen, but obviously there is some egyptian role in that as...
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israel sealed off the main roads around gaza. will israel invade on the ground? >> i think the chances are going up. >> jeffrey white, a former analyst with the defense intelligence agency says an israeli ground invasion of gaza would be a brutal bloody grind. >> there's a pretty high density of population throughout the strip. it's highest in the major areas, gaza city, there are a lot of civilians in other places as well. but the other part of this is that hamas fights from inside the cities. >> cities of narrow streets, bazaars, apartment buildings, translation? a punishing building-to-building slog in a place that's slightly more than twice the size of washington, d.c. we used a google map with cnn contributor general james marks. >> what kind of close combat are we talking about here? >> clearly what we have here in gaza city there are about 500,000 people that live in this city. and you can only imagine the type of combat that's got to take place in this very restricted terrain. >> terrain where marks says israeli troops will be exposed to ambush, sniper fi
israel sealed off the main roads around gaza. will israel invade on the ground? >> i think the chances are going up. >> jeffrey white, a former analyst with the defense intelligence agency says an israeli ground invasion of gaza would be a brutal bloody grind. >> there's a pretty high density of population throughout the strip. it's highest in the major areas, gaza city, there are a lot of civilians in other places as well. but the other part of this is that hamas fights from...
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have actually struck israel. another 307 have been intercepted by israel's so-called iron dome defense system. meanwhile, israel carried out 80 strikes today. it has now targeted 1,300 sites in gaza since it began its bombing campaign last wednesday. ben wedeman is in gaza city tonight. ben, how are civilians dealing with this conflict? some of those numbers we hear, 870 people injured are frightening. >> yeah, they're not dealing very well with it. it's a very difficult situation. you have to keep in mind, erin, that here in gaza, they don't have early warning systems. they don't have bomb shelters. they don't have an iron dome system to protect them. so, they feel very exposed. don't see a lot of people out in the street. when they do go out, they do it so very quickly. they get supplies. and really, they're just watching the television. listening to the news. awaiting to see if israel is going to go ahead with its ground incursion because as difficult as the situation is now, it will become much, much worse if
have actually struck israel. another 307 have been intercepted by israel's so-called iron dome defense system. meanwhile, israel carried out 80 strikes today. it has now targeted 1,300 sites in gaza since it began its bombing campaign last wednesday. ben wedeman is in gaza city tonight. ben, how are civilians dealing with this conflict? some of those numbers we hear, 870 people injured are frightening. >> yeah, they're not dealing very well with it. it's a very difficult situation. you...
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back israel? that's the real test. >> what message are we sending in i'll pick it up with juan right after the break. call imperial structured settlements. the experts at imperial can convert your long-term payout into a lump sum of cash today. megyn: juan, your thoughts on weakness provocative and staying silent is somehow a message to the world that we may not have israel's back? >> i don't think that at play at all. mark says words have power and i couldn't agree more. but in this situation i think strengths requires some degree of restraint. the united states has been very clear in saying israel has a right to defend itself and actions speak much louder. the iron dome protecting israel is a u.s.-based idea and one that the u.s. has fund as well as military assets given to the israelis to responds. i don't think there is any question about u.s. support for israel in the arab mind or near the united states. so the words would not serve any great purpose but to add fire to a flame that's burning
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bad events in israel and gaza we could see that is that that israel has a size of a job instead of has here has been attacked by war more than one thousand five hundred rockets we can understand security concerns that's why we have a special relationship and that's why we are very concerned about the upcoming process with our decision to abstain this time we would make very clear that we support the ultimate goal of two state solution and that we would encourage everybody to come back to the negotiating table order to find a peaceful solution for both sides in order to have an israel its safe secure and safe borders and in order to have additional palestine state again safe in saved borders and hopefully prosperous more prosperous and then in the past well earlier germany was going to vote against the palestinians now you abstaining why the change of course exactly. well it has never been decided that germany would vote against it we have to coordinate already of course also was other european countries unfortunately again europe was not able to come to a common position germany worked
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toward israel. they say they have been able to intercept more than a third of those rockets and the interceptor with a system called iron dome. fred pleitgen along the israel side of the gaza border in towns like ashkelon and elsewhere, he got an up close look at how iron dome works. take a look. >> reporter: a kill that possibly saved lives on the ground. this video shows an iron dome missile intercepting a rocket fired from gaza at tel aviv on sunday. the defense system had just been installed in israel's largest city a few hours earlier. several days into the conflict, it is already clear the iron dome is having a big impact picking off hundreds of rockets. i got a tour of the israel aircraft industries plant that installs the system. this doctor is one of those in charge. one key element is an advanced radar. >> the radar searches, locates, tracks, and intercepts and guides the intercepting missiles within several seconds, few seconds within the launching time. >> reporter: it is extremely hard
toward israel. they say they have been able to intercept more than a third of those rockets and the interceptor with a system called iron dome. fred pleitgen along the israel side of the gaza border in towns like ashkelon and elsewhere, he got an up close look at how iron dome works. take a look. >> reporter: a kill that possibly saved lives on the ground. this video shows an iron dome missile intercepting a rocket fired from gaza at tel aviv on sunday. the defense system had just been...
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the pressure ought not to be put on the people of israel or the government of israel. what we're seeing is publicly obama goes out and says they have the inherent right of self defense, but privately what's happening is israel israelis arg warned not to go on the ground. as you reported, they're on the edge of it. they're going to have to if they're going to stop this ultimately the pressure against israel doesn't come diplomatly. it comes by threatening to cut off the parts change for those f-f-15s and f-16s they need tour dinorder to keep their plen the air. >> nixon helped save israel when he was president by supplying israel with. >> absolutely. >> the parts they needed and the supplies they needed. >> ronald ra reagan did the same thing. inside the government of the united states. particularly at the pentagon, you can bring pressure to bear against the israeli defense forces by simply saying you know, those spare parts that you need, the maintenance chance that's got to be done on those aircraft, boy, that stuff is going to get there a little bit slower. it's happ
the pressure ought not to be put on the people of israel or the government of israel. what we're seeing is publicly obama goes out and says they have the inherent right of self defense, but privately what's happening is israel israelis arg warned not to go on the ground. as you reported, they're on the edge of it. they're going to have to if they're going to stop this ultimately the pressure against israel doesn't come diplomatly. it comes by threatening to cut off the parts change for those...
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here on issuance of our water and for israel. israel. israel steals eighty percent of the water in the world sparing for itself the consumption of of and is really wrong that's a lie war or for our library law and some guy around us powerless among in fact and i'm sure you are. around it or are you are we all we have to familiarise you so that we are into lies you have to get out of there with your dollars and the flag is real down to the real world i know you can use to know their facts nobody disputes. nobody. norman can hold a firm to see these are you know they're for us in the worst. consume are not in the last second thousand are now on the wrong underground who are of an average probably still near where healy really. is real it's about four times their consumption. of the total power of the total border of their liberal the water supply is. still nothing to do with it. so to talk about now that's that's a lie right or is a lie i think there are sociological reasons. what you say in order to hold water for our flag went like. no i
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israel is not winding down its assault on gaza. and let's not get more perspective on the booming and the expanding frontlines in this conflict with patrick hannifin political analyst for the u.k. call him mr henning thank you very much for joining us so ordinary israelis have already shown that support for the actions of their military and. last only cement their position that. yes the last intel of eve is going to cost of fi israeli public opinion even more so than it is already but still it's not clear who is responsible completely clear who is responsible for the blast in tel aviv there has been an official group to step forward and take responsibility so the timing of it is quite interesting actually yes and where does this leave the chance of a cease fire that. well there was you know we really have to look at the larger perspective of this recent conflict with gaz and the ceasefire process was under way before this operation began and as we had baskin on your program that we could go saying that israel decided it was not in
israel is not winding down its assault on gaza. and let's not get more perspective on the booming and the expanding frontlines in this conflict with patrick hannifin political analyst for the u.k. call him mr henning thank you very much for joining us so ordinary israelis have already shown that support for the actions of their military and. last only cement their position that. yes the last intel of eve is going to cost of fi israeli public opinion even more so than it is already but still...
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clearly throughout israel. but the fact is, you have this densely populated area and people -- civilians dying because they are living, you know, side by side in the same buildings as hamas leaders that you take out? >> that is the fault of hamas. hamas has put its fighters in the very midst of a densely populated area because they not only have a military strategy of trying to kill the maximum number of israeli citizens, they have a media strategy. they want us to fire back at them and if we injure pll civilians or -- palestinian civilians or kill them tragically, they can use that sensationalize, put the pictures on the newspaper and delegitimize us and deny us the right to defend ourselves. if we injure or god forbid kill palestinians for us that's a tragedy. if they kill israelis for them that's a victory. it's completely different set of rules for hamas and for israel. this time, we were able to reduce in this round of fighting -- the last round was in 2008 -- 2009, a higher level of civilian casualties. w
clearly throughout israel. but the fact is, you have this densely populated area and people -- civilians dying because they are living, you know, side by side in the same buildings as hamas leaders that you take out? >> that is the fault of hamas. hamas has put its fighters in the very midst of a densely populated area because they not only have a military strategy of trying to kill the maximum number of israeli citizens, they have a media strategy. they want us to fire back at them and...
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breaking news right now from israel. this morning, israeli television is reporting that three israelis were killed in rocket strikes in the southern region of that country. this comes as the israeli military has launched an aggressive campaign to cripple hamas after repeated rocket attacks. as many as 750 this year launched from gaza into southern israel. last night president obama spoke on the phone with prime minister benjamin netanyahu acknowledging israel's right to defend itself following but also urging netanyahu to avoid civilian casualties. hours earlier the israeli government posted this video from youtube showing an air strike yesterday in gaza that killed ahmed al jabari, he is the top military member of hamas. that was a widespread campaign against hamas targets that the israeli military had said it will broaden in the coming days. this morning israeli defense forces, the idf, dropped leaflets over gaza warning residents there to stay away from hamas operatives. >>> also on twitter, a clear message from the i
breaking news right now from israel. this morning, israeli television is reporting that three israelis were killed in rocket strikes in the southern region of that country. this comes as the israeli military has launched an aggressive campaign to cripple hamas after repeated rocket attacks. as many as 750 this year launched from gaza into southern israel. last night president obama spoke on the phone with prime minister benjamin netanyahu acknowledging israel's right to defend itself following...
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israel has intensified the pounding of gaza. and. particularly the targeting of governmental police buildings and. police station was totally leveled causing structural damage to. buildings some of the biggest governmental structures in gaza city were targeted including the biggest civil service building here in gaza. in the southern area of the gaza strip was targeted heavily overnight particularly the smuggling tunnels which gazans called the survival smuggling tunnels were almost totally destroyed last i continually being pounded with helicopters and f. sixteen s they were struck sixteen times last night israel killed three media workers. journalists two of them a cameraman for the t.v. channel another for the educational television channel and israel has admitted that it did deliberately target these civilians according to israel these stations that these media workers work for not legitimate journalistic enterprises and therefore susceptible to being targeted gazans don't expect to see a ceasefire today they hope to see a cease
israel has intensified the pounding of gaza. and. particularly the targeting of governmental police buildings and. police station was totally leveled causing structural damage to. buildings some of the biggest governmental structures in gaza city were targeted including the biggest civil service building here in gaza. in the southern area of the gaza strip was targeted heavily overnight particularly the smuggling tunnels which gazans called the survival smuggling tunnels were almost totally...
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it's interesting that israel's allies around the world, only two come out and said in defense of israel. britain and obama and the united states. the rest of them are holding back. one of the reasons is they don't want to see invasion of gaza like israel did the last time where a lot of people died including a lot of israelis. i think everything will be done to try to keep that off the table. and see if they can get a negotiated settlement. it will do away with barricades on gaza with a long-term commitment by gaza not to launch missiles. >> dana: andrea, that issue of a long-term situation or solving it quickly. hamas and netanyahu said we don't want a short-term solution. we want something more lasting. that would include something that both sides say they won't do. from your per speculative, you were talking earlier in morning about the timing of it. when you get a second term as a president, and second terms are usually filled with foreign policy. this is the first test of the second obama administration. >> andrea: right. a lot of people are looking at the timing and they are specu
it's interesting that israel's allies around the world, only two come out and said in defense of israel. britain and obama and the united states. the rest of them are holding back. one of the reasons is they don't want to see invasion of gaza like israel did the last time where a lot of people died including a lot of israelis. i think everything will be done to try to keep that off the table. and see if they can get a negotiated settlement. it will do away with barricades on gaza with a...
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first assumption israel is our ally that's what comes first so if israel is fighting if there's any military. attack going on we don't talk about the fact that the israeli military is by far the strongest in the region we don't talk about the four point one billion dollars in military aid the u.s. has spent this year we only talk about israel as being the victims and that has its origins back in the cold war you know in the cold war days israel after sixty seven was seen as a great ally of the united states and it was it played a cat's paw role of representing u.s. interests in many parts of the world certainly in the middle east but not only there also as far afield as and gold and mozambique and nicaragua south africa and el salvador in all these places where israel backed up the u.s. provided arms to u.s. backed dictators etc and in that context the work of pro israeli lobbies the traditional jewish lobby the newer christian zionist lobbies all of that influence began to to join it intersected with the strategic value that israel was starting to have for the pentagon for the cong
first assumption israel is our ally that's what comes first so if israel is fighting if there's any military. attack going on we don't talk about the fact that the israeli military is by far the strongest in the region we don't talk about the four point one billion dollars in military aid the u.s. has spent this year we only talk about israel as being the victims and that has its origins back in the cold war you know in the cold war days israel after sixty seven was seen as a great ally of the...
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and violence with israel. so they talked a lot about armed resistance, but they fired very few rockets and they didn't let anybody else do it. because of the internal power struggle and because they want to say to the external leadership and to everybody else in hamas, hey, we rule gaza and we do the fighting against israel, they have unfurled again the banner of armed resistance and dragged this in. now, let me just say, though, israel too escalated at one point. there was a cease-fire that was holding and israel used that cease-fire and they admit this to lull hamas into a false sense of security and murder its military commander, which set off the latest round, so -- and they are in an election cycle and i think israeli politicians are also sinically using this violence to seem tough, to strike a pose, to win points against their rivals, and so i think you have very few clean hands here. i do think, yeah, the change within dynamics within hamas explain why this started again in 2012. >> and very quickly, i
and violence with israel. so they talked a lot about armed resistance, but they fired very few rockets and they didn't let anybody else do it. because of the internal power struggle and because they want to say to the external leadership and to everybody else in hamas, hey, we rule gaza and we do the fighting against israel, they have unfurled again the banner of armed resistance and dragged this in. now, let me just say, though, israel too escalated at one point. there was a cease-fire that...
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israel is putting so much effort to ensure that civilians are not hurt. i'm sorry but look at what we're spending on our money we're spending our money on defending our civilians making sure they're safe and making sure that we can we do not hurt civilians when we go to war what this hamas spend their money on they are hiding behind television crews they are hiding behind journalists and israel is doing something on paralleled in the history of warfare it making sure that people who are not involved are not killed and israel is really been commended by all countries not just for having the right to defend its citizens but also for the fact that it is couldn't ducting itself in a way that is very proportional and very measured well journalists an anti-war activist don de bar says a cease fire might save the palestinians from bombs but not from the consequences of the years long israeli blockade. their condition degraded from being storing to being starving and bombed and now the bombing apparently will stop and so that is a reason to celebrate as meager as
israel is putting so much effort to ensure that civilians are not hurt. i'm sorry but look at what we're spending on our money we're spending our money on defending our civilians making sure they're safe and making sure that we can we do not hurt civilians when we go to war what this hamas spend their money on they are hiding behind television crews they are hiding behind journalists and israel is doing something on paralleled in the history of warfare it making sure that people who are not...
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israel wants to deal. if there's no deal, then as they keep saying, all options are still open. >> martin fletcher reporting from tel aviv, thanks so much. >>> we want to bring in our political panel. we have nationally syndicated radio talk show host and msnbc contributor michael and perry bacon, political editor. yes men, great to have you here. it seems that every president in modern times has had to deal with the tensions that flair up within the middle east. they always try to talk about overseeing a long-term cease-fire. as we should on the brink of those discussions right now, between gaza and israel, what is the broader impact of the idea that not only will there be a cease-fire, but the fact that israel's neighbors will verify their right to exist, which is the longer formatted problem? >> well, yeah, i think we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves. i think the first step is to cease hostilities. i think that the state department has already said that's step one for secretary of state clinton's arriva
israel wants to deal. if there's no deal, then as they keep saying, all options are still open. >> martin fletcher reporting from tel aviv, thanks so much. >>> we want to bring in our political panel. we have nationally syndicated radio talk show host and msnbc contributor michael and perry bacon, political editor. yes men, great to have you here. it seems that every president in modern times has had to deal with the tensions that flair up within the middle east. they always try...
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repercussions for israel i mean it's not it's not in a good space right now. i think i think that the critical question for israel is egypt and how is egypt reacting and so far i think israel can be quite satisfied that though they did something quite risky and though what they did was upsetting to egypt because there had been a calm before the assassination that egypt brokered and israel violated that with the assassination. nevertheless they took this risk and the reaction from egypt has been far more muted than it could have been so far the greatest consequence has been for the egyptian ambassador to tel aviv to be withdrawn and that's something that even mubarak did nathan through all analysts with the middle east program of the international crisis group thank you thank you by this latest outburst of violence in the holy land has been left to many on the sidelines and already the lancelot i gave gaza is warning protests worldwide activist and demonstrators in a number of countries have rallied to decry the deaths and demand any needed end to the fighting.
repercussions for israel i mean it's not it's not in a good space right now. i think i think that the critical question for israel is egypt and how is egypt reacting and so far i think israel can be quite satisfied that though they did something quite risky and though what they did was upsetting to egypt because there had been a calm before the assassination that egypt brokered and israel violated that with the assassination. nevertheless they took this risk and the reaction from egypt has been...
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israel is going to react to that. i think you'll see a very intense demonstration between them to cease and desist. >> gaza is not a big area. at some point they have to run out of pockets to some degree, don't they? >> yeah, but that's a big risk. so the big driver of the israeli operation right now is the long-range rockets that were allegedly supplied by iran and which hamas has been using to target major urban centers in israel like tel aviv, like jerusalem. tel aviv has been the red line for israel, and as long as hamas has been in possession of these rockets and can maintain that threat against israeli population centers, israel can't afford to sit back. so the air strikes, yes, they have been achieving some success, but hamas has still been lobbying those rockets over. we saw that today with strikes in jerusalem as well as in tel aviv, so it really comes down to that intelligence question. how many rockets does hamas have in its possession, and if hamas is able to get out of this with some rockets, that's a hug
israel is going to react to that. i think you'll see a very intense demonstration between them to cease and desist. >> gaza is not a big area. at some point they have to run out of pockets to some degree, don't they? >> yeah, but that's a big risk. so the big driver of the israeli operation right now is the long-range rockets that were allegedly supplied by iran and which hamas has been using to target major urban centers in israel like tel aviv, like jerusalem. tel aviv has been...
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israel expanding the bombing campaign in gaza and hamas rockets raining down on southern israel. it's only getting worse. so is the u.s. doing enough to support its ally israel? you'll hear from batched john bolton and senator john mccain and a live report from southern israel. senator-elect ted cruz is here. he said he knows how to get the g.o.p. message out to hispanic voters. you'll hear his plan, but first, the crisis in the middle east. >> we've got the sirens going. we've got the sirens going. we'll keep going. this area was hit once before. we're going to keep moving. we're going to grab this. keep coming this way. >> they're crumbling all over the middle east. >> you have people determined to destroy israel. >> we want hamas to stop firing on us, and we want to create a situation where they cannot fire at us every other day and pair lies after the country. it's a terrorist group that wants the destruction of israel. no nation would put up with what hawaii 6 israel has up until now. they have to defend their people and their nation. >> this is where the rocket hit. you can
israel expanding the bombing campaign in gaza and hamas rockets raining down on southern israel. it's only getting worse. so is the u.s. doing enough to support its ally israel? you'll hear from batched john bolton and senator john mccain and a live report from southern israel. senator-elect ted cruz is here. he said he knows how to get the g.o.p. message out to hispanic voters. you'll hear his plan, but first, the crisis in the middle east. >> we've got the sirens going. we've got the...
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that's israel's perspective. who winds up getting killed more? israel has more fire power. three israeli's killed, 19 palestinians. four years ago with the last incursion, 13 israelis were killed but 1400 palestinians were killed, hundreds were civilians. when netanyahu the incredibly right wing leader of israel, was he says it's all justifiable. >> in recent days and weeks hamas and the other terrorist organizations in gaza have made normal life impossible for the 1 million israelis. no government would tolerate a situation where nearly a fifth of its people live under a constant barrage of rockets and missile fire. this is why israel will continue to take whatever action is necessary to defend our people. >> cenk: of course, which side is the u.s. going to fall on? well here, the departments are supposed to be leftwing, although i don't see that often either but when it comes to israel there will be no balanced approach. the u.s. state department deputy spokesperson says there is no justification for the violence that hamas and other terrorists organizations are employing
that's israel's perspective. who winds up getting killed more? israel has more fire power. three israeli's killed, 19 palestinians. four years ago with the last incursion, 13 israelis were killed but 1400 palestinians were killed, hundreds were civilians. when netanyahu the incredibly right wing leader of israel, was he says it's all justifiable. >> in recent days and weeks hamas and the other terrorist organizations in gaza have made normal life impossible for the 1 million israelis. no...
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israel. egypt is serving as an intermediary in the ongoing talks vicinity's president told reporters if the situation was further escalateed this co-mean dire consequences, and we could not accept that, and the free world could not accept that. william hague seemed to agree. a ground invasion is much more difficult for the international community to support. for more for the efforts to broker peace i'm joined by james traub and by joe cirincione president of the global security foundation and author of "bomb scare: the history and future of nuclear weapons." why now? why is this simmer conflict simmering conflict happening. >> there is an election coming up in israel. the cynical interpretation would be netanyahu has decided to have this census-creating war. now is that true? i don't know. the underlying israel point of view is that it's the time to show hamas that this is unacceptable. the underlying question is given the occurrence of this event what happened four years ago looks almost ide
israel. egypt is serving as an intermediary in the ongoing talks vicinity's president told reporters if the situation was further escalateed this co-mean dire consequences, and we could not accept that, and the free world could not accept that. william hague seemed to agree. a ground invasion is much more difficult for the international community to support. for more for the efforts to broker peace i'm joined by james traub and by joe cirincione president of the global security foundation and...
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day seven of the israel/gaza bloodshed. hamas says there's a cease-fire agreement with israel but israeli spokesman says it is not a done deal. >> i understand they want a time-out. but if they're interested in a time-out just to regroup and come and shoot back at israelis a week from now after they've rested and replenished missile stocks we're not interested in that. >> want to go straight to wolf blitzer live in jerusalem. wolf, first of all, tell us what the state of the cease-fire is. you've been talking with israeli
day seven of the israel/gaza bloodshed. hamas says there's a cease-fire agreement with israel but israeli spokesman says it is not a done deal. >> i understand they want a time-out. but if they're interested in a time-out just to regroup and come and shoot back at israelis a week from now after they've rested and replenished missile stocks we're not interested in that. >> want to go straight to wolf blitzer live in jerusalem. wolf, first of all, tell us what the state of the...
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of course, iran, that is looking forward to this proxy war to test israel, see what israel is able to accomplish. i think part have what israel has to accomplish is try to disarm hamas so hamas can't be a weapon against them if they ever have to attack iran. >> greta: i don't know how much choice there is. probably zero, but the whole idea that president morsi is one going to broker the deal. he did call israel a terror state and obviously taken his side. secondly, his country has been the country that iran sent these missiles that can reach tel aviv and jerusalem have been laundered through sudan, laundered through egypt, laundered into the gaza and into hamas. egypt is up to their eyeballs in supplying hamas with these weapons that can now reach these cities. >> this the guy that wants to have blind shake released trying to bomb the hell out of my city. to be honest broker, he is completely on the side of hamas. he has made it clear he supports islamic extremists and terrorism. if he were interested in peace here, he would be saying to hamas, sand down. if you keep lobbing missiles
of course, iran, that is looking forward to this proxy war to test israel, see what israel is able to accomplish. i think part have what israel has to accomplish is try to disarm hamas so hamas can't be a weapon against them if they ever have to attack iran. >> greta: i don't know how much choice there is. probably zero, but the whole idea that president morsi is one going to broker the deal. he did call israel a terror state and obviously taken his side. secondly, his country has been...